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VERY IMPORTANT NOTICE

There are 2 versions of this series; the Hunan TV version which is shorter, more episodes and about 15 minutes ahead with possible more or lesser scene and the Uncut version which is longer per episode and is about 15 minutes slower. Uncut doesn't mean it is not censored. I am following the Uncut version, so all the videos for download and recaps are based on Uncut version. The subbers at Viki is also following the uncut version. Please take note of that.

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I welcome comments, I welcome spoilers so post away. I mean I already know the ending!




RAMBLINGS : ALL ABOUT BAI ZIHUA AKA WALLACE HUO JIANHUA

The following are my various posts specifically on Bai Zihua, very photo centric and yes, a lot of love. Some spoilers may be revealed in here.


14.09.2015
A CLARIFICATION ON RELATIONSHIP RUMOURS
Sorry girls, Bai Zihua is not with Hua Qiangu in real life. Well to some this may be great news.

Huajae Company at Weibo which is indirectly Wallace's weibo account (he doesn't have one officially and the day he opens one is when aliens taken over him) issued an indirect denial on recent relationship rumours with whoever he is rumoured with, specifically Liying and all those so called exposes.


@ Huajaecompany: The one that Hua Ge is in love with is this, therefore he is now in a relationship with it. Others so called relationships are pure fiction. 

There you have it. He rarely issues any statements personally,  not even on the Viann "one night stand-third party-hotel trysts" rumours. Usually it is Huajae Company that does it and even they're  not quite actively denying. Anyway he is now into cycling it seems. I am however not sure that IS his bicycle though.


THE FINAL SCENE OF THE FINAL EPISODE

The following are pictures of the final scene of the final episode where I hated it for reasons leading up to this scene and not the scene itself.




 With the song "Couldn't Say" as background song, possibly the worst song to depict a happy ending.

UPDATES - 11.09.2015
What should have been the ultimate happy ending is the following lovely quote taken from one of the many epilogues translated by Sarafina of SPCNET Forums;

师父,我们回去吧,长留山还有大家和我一样需要你。绝情殿有我人生中最美好的记忆,我很想念那个地方。而 且好不容易找回了一切,我想和大家分分秒秒都在一起,不想分开太远。最重要的是,我想成为对师父而言最重要 的人,但不是一切。师祖对你的嘱托,你对长留和众生的责任,这些都是不能推脱也不能被辜负的,不要因为我而 离开放弃。长留是师父的家,是师父的根,也曾经是师父的全部,过去的日子师父虽然也是一个人,但是从来都不 会觉得孤独,那是因为你有要做的事。可是在云山的这些年,你却没有一天真正快乐过。我知道师父一直挂心着这 里的,不然你不会选择到长留山海底来借安眠逃避。师父,我们回去吧,爱与大义是可以两全的。小骨想知道今年 绝情殿的桃花开得好不好……


Teacher, let's return (to Chang Liu). Both Chang Liu and I need you. My fondest memories are there.... I want to become Teacher's most important person but not everything. You have your responsibilities to Chang Liu, to your teacher, to the world. You cannot forsake them all for me. Chang Liu is your home and your roots. Even though I was alone with you on Yun Mountain for so many years [Note: when she was still retarded from her incomplete reincarnation and had BZH all to herself], you've never been truly happy. I know your heart is still with Chang Liu. So let us return. Love and righteousness can co-exist.

One supposes that Changliu by that time changed from Catholicism to Protestantism

A SHORT OPINION ON THE SERIES

8.9.15 Written by Funn Lim 5 Comments Post a comment
Reposted from SPCNET Forums where I raved and ranted.



Please don't remind me.. heart sick.. I've ranted, I've angered, I am sure even the directors have ranted and angered over executive decisions and abandoned this to the outer forces.

It is just a great series butchered. If it was a bad series, fine, but sigh....

In retrospect, I will just say this. It should have been 70 episodes. It should not have been broadcast over HUnan. The statistics isn't helping. I hated the ending, I don't get the flying in the night. I don't see why it is a happy ending as BZH lives in fear she will remember the past. BUT the last scene before her death, she cursed him out of love, but it has no effect since like an angry woman rant rather than proper curse, she said what she said out of regret with a tinge of hope but in the end she said it out of frustration. She still loved him no matter what. The dialogue seems intact in her death scene. 

What I hate is BZH saying he was wrong lar, he regretted lar.. because ever notice even at the end, he never did say out he loved her. In the end he maintained a shifu/disciple platonic albeit lots of touching relationship with her. In the end it went back to square one. But because this HQG is simple minded (faculties not all there) it is easier to deal with. That is not a happy ending. So to be happy a woman needs to be less smart because expect too much will only hurt you.

As for BZH, I feel sad for this dude. I love him, he felt so real, and it hurts that last  episodes or so he is reduced to a crybaby. He doesn;t deal with emotions well, he is better off without it. Yeah suddenly he is in love. I take an alt interpretation. THe scar hurts because he feels sexual desire. I don't see it hurting before he tongue kissed her on the bed (censored of course so according to this series BZH just went down on his knees and sobbed hard because of nothing). The editing makes it all so terrible and trivial. But the characterisation doesn't convince me he ever truly really in love with her. It is more like deep regret, much like MXL and Qingshui of course the series meant otherwise. I hate how a great BZH is reduced to nothing and fans are rejoicing at this "happy" ending when I see it as the ultimate sad ending. I now understand how Mo Yan feels. I also see SXM's point who is the true BZH. BZH is fake BZH.

Poor MXL. Poor poor MXL and how come Qingshui is insane? Why make her insane? Is this her just dessert for one mistake? So NMT had it easy. I don't get NMT and never will and I hate how the series is trying to paint her. Her so called DFYQ punishment.. where? Can't see it. Back to Qingshui, she doesn't deserve this end.

HQG had it easy doesn't she? In the end she got what she wanted. She went back to the way things were. Unfortunately the price was too big for that. I hated how even to the end she is trying to force BZH to admit to whatever she wants him to admit and then forces him to kill her so he will remember her for the rest of his miserable life.

This series tones down on the book's suffering, correct? I love the acting, I love the costumes, I love the idea, I love the individual characters but I dislike the story, I dislike the narrative and I HATE the editing.

In the end story wise, I am never convinced by BZH's love or HQG's attitude towards love. This is not a love story. The book may be about obsession but the series tells me love kills, love destroys, love doesn't giveth, it taketh and in the end screw the world, because as long we have each other, the others' sacrifice is of no significance. All these thanks to the stupid editing. I am sure the original series would have made the story a more beautiful one.

Because of this editing, DFYQ has just resurrected himself and said "Boy was I glad I died before all the nonsense".

I have never seen a series' story butchered the way this was.  Never. Now I know. Ciwen should have refused all promotion for this version or even broadcast it. But for practicality sake, they can't. It pains me, pains me so deeply.

Performance wise, Liying impresses until her HQG had a reboot. Everybody else impresses. Ma Ke was impressive, a breakout star but my special place in my heart is Wallace. His best performance todate and he spent most of the time sick or dying or puking blood or crying hard. Most expressive I have seen him when he started without much expression.


Like one of the post said, the problem is FGG painted such a perfect picture of BZH in the beginning, same as was this series and so his descend to being a mere mortal is in the end the most disappointing aspect. This series does not celebrate love; if anything it is a cautionary tale against love and against being too dead set on anything. Be like SXM. He is the perfect immortal, without hate, without prejudice, without love, without anger, without pain, all 100% compassion. He should attain his 10th level soon if he can detach from his inability to commit to anything.

UPDATES - 10.09.2015
I have calmed down and then see loads of leaked pictures and I am caught up again and after some thought I came to the following conclusion;

I remember the fated calamity is meant to bring the downfall of the one who meets the fated calamity. In a way it came true. At the end he is no longer Bai Zihua. He was a simple mortal like man controlled by his emotions and love and fear for HQG. He is no longer seeing beyond their small house and has in effect turned his back from the world preferring a quiet life with a woman he loves and yet won't marry and prefer to maintain the way things were back to square one. So in a way, he has his downfall except he is willing to have that downfall. Is he happier? I am not quite sure. Well she is.

I am sorry if I sound sorta bitter. The author has invested years and her love and imagination to these character, I just invested approx 50 hours of my time and attention towards the characters. The more I remember, the more I see the full picture, the more I wonder do I really love this series as in genuine love? Because when I heard about the book, I disliked the story. I felt it was such a punishing story that has no rewards. But as things were explained and I see this series toning things a bit down in terms of characterisation, I love it until the editing got to me and in the end I see the 2nd act of the 1st broadcast version as the worst representation of the story by author and the 3rd act, the ending nailed the coffin for me. I fail to see how it is a romantic nor happy ending nor do I see as a whole how this is a story about sacrifice and love. All I see is a story with a serious problem; it can't stop being tragic for tragic sake and it doesn't help that the editing left a lot of questions unanswered. A proper director's cut will address all that issues. This series is capable of bettering the book's contents; winding down on the creepiness and all that. But what I can't stand is from the book to the series, almost everyone is putting HQG's suffering on BZH. I feel this is the author's weakest point. She loved BZH and yet the things she wrote gave people a different perspective. There are many ways to bring downfall to someone but the way BZH spectacularly fell to earth because of love and everyone celebrating that to me is the view of a young person. Disappointingly the series did not make the adjustment in that area. Wallace was right; in his interview he said BZH's love requires a certain level of maturity to see but unfortunately the series went along the teenager view and made it so darn obvious.

I thought Chinese Paladin III's ending was poignant and much more beautiful in a story about 2 people where fated to be together but destined to be apart.

In short I am just really really really angry that my BZH is destroyed. And I blame HQG.

MY VIEW ON THE ENDING

8.9.15 Written by Funn Lim 19 Comments Post a comment
The video I posted in Peek Into Future Episode is the ending but that is just a small part of it. My feelings on the ending as posted in various forums and I won't mince my words;

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what a great episode killed by haphazard cutting and censor. Makes no sense, no continuity. It is as if even the director just say to hell with it, cut it all and put them all into dvd.

Help! I wanna cry! I wanna cry at the butchery! I wanna cry at the rubbish ending! It should have stopped at her death. It had everything! Everything! but the curse seems more like an angry woman rant. No effect whatsoever. And suddenly the last act, I feel like as a viewer and a fan I just got slapped. Just piece whatever rubbish together and there it is a happy ending. TAke it! TAKE IT!

What did I just watched?

At least MXL and Qingshui made sense even if very sad.

Oh and he went insane off camera!

I feel like I wasted 58/50 hours of my time. Fantastic acting but the cutting, it is the decision of the filmmaker and as if they too gave up.

Worst treated series. Worst.

Forgive my language, I feel like crying. I feel like WTH did I just watched? Can't they even show how Mo Yan sacrificed himself? What the hell happened? The story should have stopped at her death where she cursed him out of love, she regretted  and she died. Apparently he went insane (cut), Mo Yan sacrificed himself to revive HQG (cut), stupid amnesia.

What on earth did I just wasted my 1 hour for? The ending where she died was beautiful. That should be the ending. And then it went on. And it became a joke. I am sure the 4 episodes extra probably addressed all these but seriously,


WHAT DID I JUST WATCHED? And what a sordid relationship. In the eyes of the world he is her shifu and there they were, intimate. I don't get it. The one that makes sense is Qingshui and MXL and that was a sad one.

It is not Hunan. It is the filmmakers who did the cutting in the end. SARFT gave the guidelines. Hunan gave the conditions. I believe it is so.

Last 10 min was god awful because it made no sense. He used Mingsheng Sword and yet the story did not operate within its own integrity. I wished it ended with her death. It had all the elements, all the dialogue. Let it be a beautiful sad ending but it went on to a happy ending stuffed down our throats. I feel insulted. A beautiful production with amazing acting but the editing is beyond appalling. It is an insult to my intelligence and it all began after shifu got cured from his poison.
  
And it is to me Wallace Huo's best performance, it had everything but in the end he was reduced to crying crying crying. Is this love? Because if it is, I don't want this sort of love. And it is so weird she calls him Shifu, he treats her like disciple but their hug was intimate. So this is role playing now? Wait till they have sex!

I don't like how my beautiful strong Bai Zihua is reduced into a heap of emotional mess of a man having PMS all the time. What I do appreciate is HQG cursed him out of love but the cursing had zero effect. It was like a angry rant of a dying woman, a woman so keen on having the man scream I LOVE YOU to the world. It never showed Mo Yan's sacrifice, suddenly there's SQM speaking beyond the grave, SCQ suddenly is the leader of 7 Murder Faction Sect and suddenly it seems like what a happy chirpy world it is. It is utter rubbish editing.

Give me the proper cut!!

Seriously, I feel like crying. I really do but not for the right reasons. I won't curse the directors, they filmed an amazing amount of footage. I don't blame the censorship, because SARFT is SARFT, you work within the guidelines. Hunan maybe if they're the executive decisions. Yes in the end it had to be a combination of all these. I see this series has the series with the worst treatment and I still don't get why and my only guess is


1. Yuzheng rubbish series is next and so hunan is pushing HQG away to be on time

2. the filmmakers have given up the fight with the executives with happy scissors and just wanna finish with this version so they can move on to proper version and DVD release and I hate them for it.

3. In the end for the producers, it is all about the money. Because I don't believe for one second SARFT has banned ALL kissing scenes, ALL hugging scenes, ALL good sense in any script scenes, ALL continuity scenes, etc etc.

I am very angry. The DVD better make up for this humiliation!

And I agree with what this fan said of how the series mistreated BZH after his poisoned state;

I know some readers felt that the ending was a happy one in that Bai Zi Hua finally realised his love for Hua Qian Gu and gave up everything to be with her and to “atone” for his “wriong choices”.

But to me, the author has painted Bai Zi Hua’s image so successfully as the ultimate immortal – he is aloof because he has seen so much of life that all emotions, pains, happiness, even lives themselves are transient, he shoulders the responsibility for maintaining the delicate balance among each world (mortal, immortal, demons, ghosts, spirits) because he has the ability and was entrusted by his teacher to take on that role.

And I felt that that was what Hua Qian Gu saw in him. She loved the Bai Zi Hua who cared for the world more than for himself.

But in the end, her love for him forced him to become another person.

A series of unfortunate circumstances pushed Hua Qian Gu towards selfishness, and also made Bai ZI Hua a selfish person. Not that I’m against selfishness in love, but at least for Bai Zi Hua, his name equates selflessness so it felt like the very defining quality in him was gone.

A PEEK AT FUTURE EPISODES

Various posts on future episodes with some spoilers. If you know where I can find the videos where the GIFs are taken from, do use Post A Comment. All Episodes discussed in here are taken from TV version and NOT the uncut version unless specified.

07.09.2015
THE LAST SCENE?
The end is near. This is supposedly the ending, but I just feel since it is so long, it feels like a dream or perhaps something else will happen. And what is the significance at ending it at night? So gloomy. I don't know. In 2 hours we shall know.



WHEN HQG OUGHTA KNOW BZH IS IN LOVE/LUST WITH HER
The scar! Probably after the kissing scene. I am very annoyed how weak shifu is, so much tears. This reminds me of Tales From Earthsea when our hero is stripped off his powers and he became a house husband. Seriously, sex for him that sort. TRUE! I hate BZH is reduced to like this. Love is supposed to empower, not to belittle. I am convinced they're not meant to be together. And I can't see how after all the stuff she can go back to girly voice and says shifu like some role play unless she has amnesia and I hate that because she can't forget people's sacrifice for her. Well good for them I suppose. Sexy times ahead. Is this love? Is BZH in love or he is in love with the idea of not losing her and so decided well might as well? And if he is in love, his behaviour is like a child who doesn't want! DOESN'T WANT!!







07.09.2015
LAST BATCH PROBABLY
The end is tonight. And so here are the last batch of future scenes...





Oh so beautiful. Wallace looking gorgeous here, like a beautiful pale woman. It is a compliment. No sign of that passionate kiss. There is no physical contact between these two except hugs in accordance to this series. The editing and the rushed episodes is quite simply killing this probably well made series. Now it just seems BZH is stubborn as hell, still calling himself her shifu so frankly it is as if he had never been in love with her but the scar and all are just purely sexual desire. HQG is just emo and all. What a way to kill the story. BZH is reduced to cry cry cry. If not for my greatest affection for Wallace Huo and the fact I followed from beginning, frankly at this point this series gets a D from me. It is not the directors' fault. I suspect censorship, HunanTV and their rush for Yuzheng's next greatest sin. And this is their golden goose, ratings winner, I only heard of extending series because of good ratings and this one is tops and is the only one where it is rushed to the end. Does it make sense to you?

And you will never see this (real or photoshopped? Will never know) ...


But you will see this ..



And more pictures of the final battle and assuming her death. That's Mingsheng Sword, that can kill and destroy everything and no return from that. So to have BZH use it is a bit too much. But to have HQG make BZH kill her is as cruel.














07.09.2015
TRANSLATED PREVIEWS
Since this series is ending today, I might as well embarrass myself by attempting to translate the previews. Not exact but in meaning and some I couldn't hear so I put the note about not being sure. But the rest I am quite sure.

EPISODE 58 



HQG : So you especially rushed here personally to stop this, is it because you couldn't bear to see me die? Why don't we elope and I don't be the demon god and you could stop being the leader of changliu and we turn our backs from the world.. how about it?

BZH : Now is the time to prioritise the more urgent matters, don't lie to yourself anymore

HQG : The one who is lying to himself is you! Are you telling me you don't desire me?

BZH : (longest walk ever) Go and return (or you go back but it depends on the context on what they're doing there he could mean please return to how you were)

HQG : I want you to tell everyone how you have that scar on your hands! *not sure* Why did you cut your flesh and still wish to return? *not sure* Who do you actually love? Say it! Say it and I will spare everyone!


BZH : *sigh*



EPISODE 57-58



HQG : He is the world's gentlest person, and yet he is also the world's most heartless person

BZH : Does it matter if I love you? Does it matter if I don't love you? We can never be together, ever.

SXM (?) : *first part not sure* why do you keep stopping yourself from loving her?

HQG : Even if he is not in love with me, as long as he gives me some attention, as long as he lets me look (at him even for just a while), even if just for one glance, even if I were to die, I will die contented. 


06.09.2015
MORE MORE MORE!






06.09.2015
MORE SKINSHIP
Looks like HQG is having a nightmare she can't get out of. But shifu, why is YOUR hand inside her blouse?



06.09.2015
"TAKE OFF MY CLOTHES!"
Yeap, seems like what HQG is telling BZH who of course hesitated. He's a prude, remember? This is her idea of torturing him. Some guys might think this is Disneyland!! By the way, the clothes? Not sexy! Like grandma print. Come on! Why such big fail with Demon God here?



06.09.2015
A PISSED OFF HQG
Wow, chilly reception there shifu. No worries. One hot kiss later, and Xiaogu comes running after you begging for your attention. Liying looks tired here.


In case you don't know, the words I believe;

Shifu : Xiaogu, Xiaogu
Xiaogu : Do  not call me Xiaogu

Am I correct?



BTS PICTURES

3.9.15 Written by Funn Lim 3 Comments Post a comment
Some of these are just cute, some silly and some quite fascinating. You will find cast pictures when filming, BTS, etc. If you have more or the videos, do share. 


03.09.2015
THE BLOOD SUCKING SCENE!
If there is a GIF there is a video somewhere. WHERE IS THE FOLLOWING VIDEO???  Here at youtube around 2.51 mark!



How come no such "nice" BTS moments for Wallace's BTS?

01.09.2015
WALLACE AS BZH IN VIDEO!!
Finally, one I can almost hear BZH in his original voice but so soft. I don't even know why they bother with the microphone anyway. You can also see the GIF which we often see him like tumbling and fainting, was really soon after he had to hang high on wires. Not because he had difficulty in walking. But you can see how uncomfortable he looks which is followed by his usual reaction of tongue in his mouth action.



The translation below is taken from fan Facebook account, Wallace Huo Info Page;

“I’m Wallace Huo. I play Bai Zihua in The Journey of Flower.”

“I come here from another filming set directly and no rest in between. Luckily the Bai Zihua character is comparatively distinct. After I read the script I’ve some thoughts and I won’t play him the same as other characters I had before.”

“The most difficult part of playing Bai Zihua is his emotions. He doesn’t show much on his face. He stays cool and calm most of the time. As such it is a challenge to show his inner emotions in this drama.”

“Since they’ve invited me I’ll do my best. About whether I’m suitable I think as long as I take up the role I believe I’m suitable. Suitable or not after I’ve taken up the role I don’t think anymore whether I’m suitable or not. Zhao Liyin is Hua Qiangu in my heart. The feeling between Bai Zihua and Hua Qiangu comes naturally. We’ve that master and disciple feeling. I think it is because of the relationship between me and my working partner. Everything goes smoothly.”

“Acting is a tough job. We need to keep fit. Firstly we need to have a strong mindset. Secondly we need to have a fit body. These two are important. I’ve always tried to stay fit. Sometimes I feel tried. I have no choice. We need to be like that in the showbiz. If you love to be an actor you can’t complain. So you need to stand every hardship. Staying healthy is a must. Otherwise we can’t stand our workloads.” 

“Zhao Liying is suitable to play Hua Qiangu. Her strong personality is similar to Hua Qiangu. We don’t have any difficulty acting together." 

“This is my first time cooperating with Jian Xin. She is an easy going person. She has a good acting skill. I’ve learnt quite a lot from her. I feel comfortable and happy working with them both.”

“Hope people will like Hua Qiangu when it is broadcast.”



IN MEMORIAM

2.9.15 Written by Funn Lim No comments Post a comment
Dedicated to those who has sacrificed themselves for Hua Qiangu or Bai Zihua or both, dying a noble death. DO you have anything to dedicate to these valiant heroes and heroines? Speak up and speak out! Don't let your grief drown you. Don't do a Bai Zihua! Use Post A Comment and cry your heart out!



Dongfang Yu Qing

Episode of death : Ep 53 (TV Hunan version)

Gutou, you must live on. Even if no one in this world loves you, you must love yourself. 

He died a valiant death, protecting the woman he grew to love in trying to redeem himself after many times betraying her trust. In the end, he died a good man in the arms of the woman who has long since forgiven him. He shall be missed!



Sha Qianmo

Episode of death : KIV (TV Hunan version)

As a thousand years of snow melts away, I await for my lord's return!

He died having used all his internal energy to free the little sister he affectionately called Little Thing, who in turn has taught him about compassion and letting down the sword. A man of unsurpassed beauty with actually a good heart whose elegance is personified by his refusal to fight an opponent who is injured, who refused to win an unfair fight. His love for Little Thing is pure and genuine. He shall be missed!!



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